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Question: I am looking to try the fringe. I’ve been riding 5.0 banzai with the 84 pyramid in 15-20kts side off conditions, should I get 5.0 fringe? or drop to a 4.7 ?
Answer: Total power comparing same size Fringe and Banzai is similar, but the power delivery is different- Fringe is a softer lifting power, and Banzai is a lower/forward direct power. So, no, a 4.7 Fringe does’t have the power of a 5.0 Banzai…
I would say to go to the Fringe 5.0 as the most direct power/range comparison to the Banzai 5.0… The difference will be overall feel.
Please let me know how you go!!!
Keep in touch Man!
Question: Do the fringes react similiar to the takas ( supposedly to totally depwer at the lip to allow u to focus on the board turning)–what similirities and differences compared to the taka.
Is there an online rigging guide i can sheck out to see how they rig?
Answer: I can’t comment directly about the Ezzy Taka. I have no experience riding that sail.
Fringe is a dedicated maneuver sail with great low end and lift while having easy de-powering characteristics.
Here is a video about the Fringe-
Question: How stable is the 5.3 Fringe at the upper end (with this size being the biggest)? Also how does the power of the fringe compare with the Banzai?
Answer: Fringe power is “lighter” int he hands than Banzai. Banzai tends to pull with more torque, and Fringe has a more quiet but persuasive power due to it’s lighter hand feel.
Banzai power is better for maximum range, and to power up a heavier rider or a lower volume/slower board. Fringe power favors a floaty, faster board that get’s going easily allowing the sail to power you up then ease off in your hands.
Comparing size to size, Banzai to Fringe, I would say that a 4.7 compares to a 4.7 pretty directly, it’s just a different feel.
We have been very surprised by the overall stability of the Fringe sails. Due to the carbon fiber stretch control placement in the upper/leech area of the sail, the sail really holds it’s shape well and twists properly even when very powered.
Fringe is a softer feeling sail that feels more “active” in your hands, but that does not translate to instability.
Banzai has a more locked feel, and if your main concern is maximum range, stability and overpowered handling, then Banzai is a better choice.
Question: I’m a long time Goya customer and planing to replace some of my sails for the upcoming season. My sail range goes from 3.7 to 5.7-Guru (3.7-2010) Banzai (3.9/4.3/4.7/5.0/5.3/5.7) What I really like about the Banzai is the power and the light handling. I’m always looking for a sail that enables me to go for a smaller size pared with a bigger board. My sailing is mostly waves-side/sideon/side off-more riding less jumping. The boards I use are quatro 84LS, 92 Pyramid and 98Cube. My weight is 90kg@182cm. Sails I want to replace are the 3.9/4.3 (model 2012)and maybe the 4.7(model 2014)
My Question would be:
1. How’s the Power of the Fringe
2. How’s the stability
3. How’s the range of use
4. What sizes would you recommend
Can you please compare your explanation with the Banzai (1st Gen).
Answer: Very interesting you ask about Fringe compared to ’12 Banzai…
Fringe has a lot of the feeling of the ’12 Banzai…
When the Banzai changed to more low draft, low grunt, twist/control in ’13, there were a number of riders who missed the light, high draft, lifting feeling of the ’12 Banzai. I was one of them. I loved rigging the ’12 Banzai’s full on a floaty board. That set up was ground breaking for me in terms of rig weight, light hand feel. “lifting” draft and easy maneuverability. The sail flew well and it surfed like crazy.
’15 Fringe brings a lot of that feeling back, but even more so. The sails are so light- under 3kg for 4.7/5.0, and the lift is up- so they feel even lighter in the hands.
The Fringe is an active sail- with only 3 battens you tend to feel a bit more movement in the body of the sail, but it’s not a bad feeling- just different.
One of the surprises of the Fringe design for me is that I’m finding that heavier guys, if on bigger boards, are loving the power and stability of the sail. I thought a bigger guy would just overpower the sail but the feedback from our big riders and customers is that the sail really gets them going and handles well powered up.
I dont think Fringe is the right sail for you for strong wind (your current quiver looks great)- I think you need a little more stability and locked draft for those windy days- either with the soft/flexible/forgiving feeling Guru, or with the new Banzai, which has a more comfortable/flexible feeling compared to ’13 and ’14.
Only sticking point I see is the 5.7…
Fringe currently runs up to 5.3 (on 400 mast). 5.5/5.7 are under development and I expect them to be ready for ’16 production.
’15 Banzai 5.5 or 5.7 are super nice sails though…
Question: How is the Fringe’s power? Does it have powerful characteristics in the low end? How does it work in overpowered condition? Is it suitable for freestyle?
Answer: Fringe is a new design and it’s capabilities are still being realized.
Fringe is best used on a higher volume board, tending towards a smaller size sail- rigged full.
Fringe has a very “lifting” power delivery that matches well with a floaty board that really gets going quickly.
I do not recommend trying to power up a small/slow board with a larger Fringe sail. The high lifting power delivery of the Fringe can become hard to manage if the board is slow to get going.
If you have a small slow board, better to power it up with a more fixed draft sail like Banzai/Eclipse/Guru.
Regarding a direct power comparison of same size, different model sails-
Fringe delivers more power per square than the other models, but it’s a different type of power. It’s a high lifting power best maximized when the sail is paired with a floaty/fast board, especially if the rider is quick and interactive (efficient) with his rig.
Banzai for example delivers a more grunting full torque power that better suits riders who tend to just stand there and wait for it.
Power is only as good as the control that comes with it. Fringe offers a very exciting pop and quickness in the low end, along with amazing maneuverability through the whole power band. The Fringe loves to maneuver.
Question: Out of curiosity, how do u compare the Fringe to the Banzai in side on to side shore wave conditions like we get on the central California coast conditions?
Answer: Banzai – low, locked, “torquey” power delivery, stable, big range… Max range and stability.
Fringe- Lifting, soft, interactive, light weight maneuver sail favoring smaller size on higher volume board… Super light weight and maneuverability.
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